Q&A: Babebee’s ‘all that heaven allows’ Is a Love Revolution
INTERVIEW
INTERVIEW
☆ BY JOY VILLANUEVA ☆
BABEBEE’S HIGHLY-ANTICIPATED ALBUM — all that heaven allows is an emotionally charged exploration of love, grief, and transformation. Over the course of this deeply personal record, Babebee weaves together raw reflections on past experiences while embracing the cathartic release of letting go. With a sonic landscape that blends shoegaze, indie rock, and electronic elements, the album captures both the vulnerability and resilience that define the artist's journey.
Read our interview with Babebee below to learn more about the making of all that heaven allows, the spiritual influences behind the album's visuals, and the love-centered revolution that fuels the record.
LUNA: Your new album, all that heaven allows, is deeply personal—touching on themes of grief, trauma, and transformation. What was the emotional process like for you while creating it?
BABEBEE: That's a great question. I feel like it was an accumulation of the past two to three years of my life. In terms of the emotional process, at first, I was definitely suppressing so much, and I was just writing songs without consciously thinking about what I was writing. Over time, as I continued working on the album, I realized—Oh sh*t—I'm actually writing about a lot of deep, emotional things, like grief. Even the projects I worked on throughout the years, since I was still releasing music while working on this album, reflected that. In a way, those songs were part of my unconscious effort to suppress everything. But I feel like this album truly helped me spill everything out—from the beginning to now.
LUNA: You’ve mentioned in the past that this upcoming album represents a goodbye: letting go of your past to free yourself for your next life. What does that rebirth look like for you?
BABEBEE: I feel like this album blends so many different genres, and that opens the door even more for me to do whatever I want with my sound. I've been wanting to release an album for a long time, but now that it's finally out, I'm like, okay, now I want to create another universe and continue building on it. I'm excited to see where my mind goes next.
LUNA: “7 minutes in heaven” has been described as a prayer rather than a love song. Can you talk about what inspired the track and what message you hope listeners take away from it?
BABEBEE: This is kind of funny, but I wrote that song while I was actively in a situationship that later turned into a relationship. But the song itself isn’t necessarily about that situation.
The broader theme is me looking at my own patterns—realizing that I kept getting into relationships that weren’t fulfilling and sometimes even abusive. And I was like, Whoa, I need to stop doing that. I think a lot of people can relate to being in an abusive relationship without realizing it until they're out of it, which can take months or even years.
For me, a lot of it was about feeling so much anger—not toward the other person, but toward myself. That’s why I describe the song as a kind of prayer and a message to let go. It’s important to forgive yourself for putting yourself through trauma, even though it’s not your fault. I think I’m slowly learning how to release the shame and guilt from that relationship and not return to people who don’t serve me—people who bring negative energy into my life.
LUNA: You’ve cited influences like Mazzy Star, Beach House, Slowdive, and Deftones. How did these artists shape the sound and mood of this album?
BABEBEE: I remember being really into shoegaze when I was a freshman in college, which was probably about five years ago. That feels like such a long time ago, and over the years, I haven’t really been able to fully tap into that sound.
But now, listening to artists like Mazzy Star or Wisp—as well as new and up-and-coming shoegaze artists—has inspired me to branch out even more. I love different genres, and my brain gets bored of just one, so I always feel the need to mix everything together.
LUNA: Your music blends shoegaze, indie rock, and electronic elements in a way that feels both nostalgic and forward-thinking. How do you approach genre and experimentation in your work?
BABEBEE: When I first started making music, I wanted to find my sound—whether that was solely bedroom pop or hyperpop. But as I kept making music, I realized that boxing myself in wasn’t fun.
There’s this common idea that successful artists have a signature sound, and people in my life have told me—probably with some bias—"You should just do more drum and bass. You could blow up if you stick to that." But for me, that doesn’t bring joy. Yeah, I have a top song that’s drum and bass, but I already made that song—I don’t need to make another one just like it. If people want that sound, they can listen to that song.
I carry that mindset into all my music. I don’t want to recreate the same thing—I want to keep evolving and expanding my sound instead of sticking to just one. I know that’s probably not great for marketing myself, but it keeps things fun, and that’s what matters to me.
LUNA: The interlude on your album translates to “Love Revolution.” How does the theme of love as a revolutionary force play into the overall narrative of the album?
BABEBEE: I feel like love is so much bigger than just us. Love is the universe. I really do believe that love has always been at the core of my music.
This album is just a continuation of that message. Even if some of the songs are tragic, there’s still love in them. I loved this person, and even if we’re not together, that love doesn’t just disappear—it’s still part of the universe. It carries on, passing through different people, whether romantically or platonically.
Love is all-encompassing, and with this album, I just want to keep spreading that message. Even when it feels like the end of the world, you are still so loved. It’s okay to feel like giving up, but despite everything—despite the struggles of daily life and how messed up society is—it’s important to me to continue spreading love in whatever way I can.
LUNA: As a producer and visual artist, how do your visuals and aesthetics connect with the themes of all that heaven allows?
BABEBEE: I really love being involved in creating music videos, storyboards, and visuals for all my projects. But with all that heaven allows, I feel like I haven’t been able to fully dive into the visual aspect as much as I’d like. I did, however, get to explore that through the cover art, which is super important to me.
The word “heaven” in all that heaven allows might imply something religious, and in a way, it is—but more on the spiritual side. I actually grew up Catholic, so I wanted to include elements of my younger self, the one who was forced to go to church with my grandma. That’s why I wore a rosary in the cover art. At the same time, I also wanted to incorporate aspects of Korean shamanism, which is why I included a sword with fabric that represents traditional Korean hanboks.
With the cover art, I really wanted to tie together my childhood upbringing and my Korean identity. It represents a more mature version of myself—someone who is continuously growing, learning more about who I am, and expressing that through my music and life.
LUNA: You’re set to perform at GROWING UP IS DUMB festival at The Echo the day after the album drops. What can fans expect from your live performance?
BABEBEE: I’m still working out the stage setup, but I can definitely say that the focus will be on the album. Since my set isn’t going to be that long, I really want to make it feel like a full album experience as much as possible. I’ll be performing alone, so I’m thinking about how to make the set feel as full and immersive as I can as just one person.
One day, I’d love to have a full band, but for now, I’m figuring out how to bring this vision to life in a way that still feels dynamic and exciting.
LUNA: If someone listens to this album from start to finish, what do you hope they feel by the time they reach the final track, “my will & my calling?”
BABEBEE: I hope people feel a sense of catharsis—like it’s 4:00AM, and you’re leaving the club, walking home, still a little tipsy, trying to sober up. It’s dark, kind of scary, but at the same time, there’s something nice about it. You’re with nature, feeling present in your body. I want people to experience that mix of emotions—the catharsis, but also that sense of being deeply connected to themselves in the moment.
LUNA: Is there anything else you’d like to share with Luna?
BABEBEE: I really want to go on tour! We’ll have to see how things go, but I’m thinking about doing some local shows, maybe in New York or LA. We’ll see how it all comes together!
