Q&A: Unveiling the Depths of Love in "Lovers" with Ben Lee and Tim Nelson of Cub Sport
IN THE LUMINOUS REALM OF “LOVERS”, Ben Lee and Tim Nelson of Cub Sport unravel the intricate threads of past romances, offering a profound insight into the evolution of their perspectives on love. Lee candidly shares his journey from youthful insecurities to a profound appreciation for the experiences that shaped him and his wife. Reflecting on his own past and the transformative power of love, Lee underscores the importance of gratitude for the journey that brought them to the present moment, echoing sentiments of growth and maturity.
Against the backdrop of nostalgic imagery, Nelson delves into the genesis of "Lovers" and its visual representation, encapsulating the essence of the song's message. The poignant artwork featuring Nelson and his partner at their high school formal serves as a testament to the enduring power of love and the passage of time. Through their collaboration with Lee, Cub Sport's personal narrative intertwines seamlessly with the universal themes of love and acceptance, resonating deeply with audiences across the spectrum of human experience.
As pioneers in pushing creative boundaries and advocates for authenticity within the LGBTQ+ community, Lee and Nelson discuss the profound impact of their music in fostering a sense of belonging and empowerment. From celebrating diverse expressions of love to embracing the inherent beauty of individuality, their artistry transcends conventional boundaries, inspiring others to live authentically and embrace their true selves.
With their upcoming Weirder Together Variety Show promising an eclectic fusion of music, comedy, and creative expression, Lee and Nelson continue to forge a path of inclusivity, unity, and unabashed love.
LUNA: "Lovers" explores themes of past and present relationships. With such a focus on growth and appreciation, how has your perspective on past loves evolved over time?
LEE: When you’re younger, you’re generally more insecure. Past loves and lovers can feel threatening. Now when I look at my wife, I think ‘I am so grateful we didnt get married when you were 23, you worked some stuff out before we got together’. I love her so much that I am truly grateful for all her past experiences that brought her to the present moment. And I feel similarly about my own past. Gratitude for the fellow travelers I’ve connected with at different points in time.
NELSON: I kind of have a unique situation where I don’t really have past ‘loves’ …Sam was my first love and still is. There are other types of loves in life that aren’t romantic though, and I like to think that every relationship we make in life enriches us in some way…
LUNA: The single artwork features a photo of Cub Sport's Tim Nelson and Bolan at their high school formal. What drew you to this specific image, and how does it connect to the song's message?
LEE: There is such a focus on memory and the past in the lyrics, that I knew I wanted a nostalgic older photo. Tim and Sam have posted such great photos of their relationship over the years. And I’ve been really inspired by their love. So I just texted Tim and asked if he had anything that would be good. The photo he sent was absolutely perfect.
LUNA: "Lovers" has a nostalgic feel. Were there any specific artists or eras that influenced the song's sound?
LEE: My bathroom in LA influenced the sound. That’s where I recorded it. I just did the vocal and guitar live and then did one overdub of melodica and thats it. This is the only “mellow” song on the album, the rest are total rockers, so I didnt want to overthink it.
LUNA: What made Cub Sport the perfect fit for the visual representation of "Lovers"?
LEE: They are in love! And their story started so young (and in secret). I’ve been so inspired by the way their love story is woven into the story of their music and the band. Its very romantic.
LUNA: You both have strong followings within the LGBTQ+ community. How do you feel your music celebrates love and acceptance?
LEE: I’ve just always been open minded and accepting of people. I think the lesbians chose me haha. I remember meeting the Indigo Girls and Tegen and Sara and they all liked my music. Then when I opened for Rufus Wainwright one night someone called out “The lesbians love you, Ben!”. For someone who is basically a heterosexual dude, I’ve always identified with the concept of “Queerness” - it just seems really important to not have to define your sexuality or interests based on whatever the mainstream status quo is.
NELSON: I think just by the music existing. It’s been said before… but when you see someone living authentically, expressing themselves truly, it makes it feel safer to do the same yourself.
LUNA: You're both known for pushing creative boundaries. What can fans expect from your upcoming Weirder Together Variety Show in Melbourne?
LEE: Weirder Together as a company is a creative container for me and my wife’s taste, aesthetic and community. Whether we are releasing podcasts, or music, or hosting an event like the variety show, its always about the vibe for: eclectic, a bit chaotic, and quite silly. So we usually have music and comedy and somethings that push the boundaries abit. I play some songs. Its fun controlled chaos as entertainment.
LUNA: Looking ahead, are there any potential collaborations or future projects you'd love to tackle together?
LEE: We have one kinda secret thing that we worked on indirectly together. Im excited for people to hear that. But anytime Tim wants to do anything, Im up for it. I’d love for him to produce something of mine one day.
NELSON: There’s actually kind of a Ben Lee x Cub Sport moment on the way really soon…
